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中本聪 · 2009 年 11 月 16 日

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往 Drupal 这种更偏网站发布的 CMS 方向走,是个好主意。它更合适,也能做出比 wiki 更好看的网站。我想自己之前对 wiki 的判断错了。只有少数特定的人会做网站设计,他们完全可以另外注册账号。这样一来,与论坛整合登录就没那么重要了。从安全角度说,我甚至更愿意使用不同的登录账号,而不是一直用一个能控制整个网站的账号浏览论坛。

That's a good idea to go in a more web-publishing CMS type direction like Drupal. That's a better fit and can produce a better looking website than a wiki. I think I was wrong about wiki. Only a few specific people will do any website design work and those people can go ahead and have a separate login. In that case, login integration with the forum doesn't matter much. For security, I'd almost rather have a different login than be constantly checking the forum with the same login that could pwn the website.

Drupal 的论坛比 wiki 的稍好,但距离我愿意使用的东西仍差得很远。

Drupal's forum is less bad than the wikis, but still a long way from something I would want to use.

zetaboards 的优缺点:

zetaboards pros and cons:

优点:

pros:

  • 我们不用担心带宽
  • 他们负责后台管理和安全补丁
  • we don't have to worry about bandwidth
  • they handle the backend management and security patches

缺点:

con:

  • 没有 SSL
  • 没有隐私,所有内容都会被记录
  • 无法控制 php 代码来定制
  • 没有验证码,即使以后增加,也可能是无法接受的 flash
  • 有广告(以后如果足够在意,可以付费去掉)
  • 始终存在一个风险:他们可能突然因为某个小事取消网站
  • lack of SSL
  • lack of privacy, everything is logged
  • lack of control over the php code for customization
  • no CAPTCHA, and if they add one later it might be unacceptable flash
  • ads (could pay to get rid of them later if we care enough)
  • there's always the risk they abruptly cancel the site for some petty reason
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你认为更换 wiki 有什么好处?我能想到的有: SSL 离开 sourceforge 不可靠的托管 不再让 sourceforge 记录一切

What do you see as the benefits of switching the wiki? Some I can think of: SSL get away from sourceforge's unreliable hosting everything not logged by sourceforge

我认为最大的好处是只有一个网站,不需要为 wiki 和论坛分别注册账号,功能也能与主站本身很好地整合。没有广告也是一个优点。

I think the biggest advantage is having a single site so you don't need a separate account for the wiki and the forum, and the functionalities are also nicely integrated with the main site itself. Also being ad-free is a plus.

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论坛功能和 bitweaver 一样弱。我们需要一个功能完整的论坛软件。

The forum feature is about as weak as bitweaver. We need a full blown forum software for that.

Drupal 的论坛功能怎么样?地址: https://174.143.149.98/drupal/。这个 CMS 整体看起来比 TikiWiki 更好,也更简单。如果论坛不够好,我们当然可以使用 phpBB 这样的专门论坛软件。

How about Drupal's forum functionality? Address: https://174.143.149.98/drupal/. The CMS in general looks better and simpler than TikiWiki. If the forum's not good enough, then we can of course use a specialized forum software like phpBB.

引用中本聪此前的文字中本聪来源 ↗

我目前的重点是把论坛办起来,phpBB 或类似软件都行。 你觉得 zetaboards 这个选项怎么样?我们要不要就用它?

My priority right now is to get a forum going, either phpBB or similar. What do you think of the zetaboards option? Should we go ahead with that?

其他方面没问题,但广告和缺少 SSL 是缺点。

Otherwise fine, but the ads and the lack of SSL are a minus.

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