我很确定那不是我。工作电脑上的 BitCoin 应该通过我们的静态 NAT 地址连接;家里的连接也已经至少 3 天使用我告诉你的那个 IP 了(这几天我一直在两台电脑之间转币做测试)。
Pretty sure that's not me. My BitCoin application at work should be coming from our static NAT address and my connection at home has had the IP that I gave you for at least 3 days now (that I've been transferring coins between them for test purposes).
当然,没问题。
Sure, no problem.
我现在就加入,谢谢。(:
I'll join right now, thanks (:
是的,我看到了那封邮件,这也是我这么快就启动节点的原因之一。我的电脑空闲时也没什么别的事可做,为什么不生成比特币呢?如果有一天它们值钱了……?那就是额外的收获!
Yes, I saw that message and was one of the other reasons I started up a node so quickly. My systems aren't doing much of anything else while idle, so why not create BitCoins? And if they're worth something someday...? Bonus!
我能想到,各类需要微支付的网站都可以使用它们。不过,如果它们想使用现有的比特币节点网络,而不是封闭系统,我觉得实际采用时也会有一个障碍:它们必须先生成足够支持业务的币,或者从别人那里买入。封闭系统显然没有这个问题。
I can see how various types of sites that have a need for micropayments could use them, however I also see an impedement to adoption if they want to use an existing BitCoin peer group rather than a closed system since they would first have to generate enough coins to support what they intend to do (or buy them from someone else). A closed system obviously doesn't have that problem.
挺有意思的应用。(:
Interesting application (:
又一个好主意。
Another good idea.
-- Dustin D. Trammell dtrammell@dustintrammell.com http://www.dustintrammell.com
-- Dustin D. Trammell dtrammell@dustintrammell.com http://www.dustintrammell.com
引用的来信Dustin D. Trammell来源 ↗引用的中本聪旧文中本聪来源 ↗你知道,我觉得 90 年代对这个领域感兴趣的人要多得多,但经过十多年基于可信第三方的系统(Digicash 等)不断失败,他们认为这已经没有希望了。我希望他们能分清区别:据我所知,这是我们第一次尝试一个不依赖信任的系统。
You know, I think there were a lot more people interested in the 90's, but after more than a decade of failed Trusted Third Party based systems (Digicash, etc), they see it as a lost cause. I hope they can make the distinction that this is the first time I know of that we're trying a non-trust-based system.
是的,这正是最吸引我的特点。真正的难点是让人们实际认可 BitCoins 的价值,使它们成为货币。
Yea, that was the primary feature that caught my eye. The real trick will be to get people to actually value the BitCoins so that they become currency.
我们已经知道该怎样实现电子货币,使它不至于因可信第三方临阵退缩而被迫简化。如果 10 年后我们还没有以某种方式使用电子货币,我会很惊讶。
I would be surprised if 10 years from now we're not using electronic currency in some way, now that we know a way to do it that won't inevitably get dumbed down when the trusted third party gets cold feet.
它可以从一个小众领域起步,比如奖励积分、捐赠代币、游戏货币,或者成人网站的小额支付。起初,它可以用于工作量证明应用,为那些几乎可以免费、却又不能完全免费的服务付费。
It could get started in a narrow niche like reward points, donation tokens, currency for a game or micropayments for adult sites. Initially it can be used in proof-of-work applications for services that could almost be free but not quite.
它已经可以用于付费发送电子邮件。发送对话框可以调整大小,你想输入多长的消息都可以。连接建立时,消息会直接发送。接收方双击交易,就能看到完整消息。如果某位名人收到的邮件多到看不完,却仍然希望给粉丝保留联系自己的途径,他可以设置好比特币,在网站上公布 IP 地址。“向这个 IP 上的我的优先热线发送 X 个比特币,我会亲自阅读你的消息。”
It can already be used for pay-to-send e-mail. The send dialog is resizeable and you can enter as long of a message as you like. It's sent directly when it connects. The recipient doubleclicks on the transaction to see the full message. If someone famous is getting more e-mail than they can read, but would still like to have a way for fans to contact them, they could set up Bitcoin and give out the IP address on their website. "Send X bitcoins to my priority hotline at this IP and I'll read the message personally."
订阅网站如果需要为免费试用增加一些工作量证明,避免试用蚕食付费订阅,就可以为试用收取比特币。
Subscription sites that need some extra proof-of-work for their free trial so it doesn't cannibalize subscriptions could charge bitcoins for the trial.
考虑到它可能会流行起来,先弄一点也许是有道理的。如果有足够多的人都这么想,就会成为自我实现的预言。一旦它起步成功,只要能像往自动售货机里投币一样,轻松地向网站支付几分钱,就会有非常多的应用。
It might make sense just to get some in case it catches on. If enough people think the same way, that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Once it gets bootstrapped, there are so many applications if you could effortlessly pay a few cents to a website as easily as dropping coins in a vending machine.
Satoshi Nakamoto http://www.bitcoin.org
Satoshi Nakamoto http://www.bitcoin.org
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Satoshi to Dustin Trammell: electronic currency vision, CC'd publicly (January 16, 2009)